Remington Vantage 1200 .177
CenterPoint 4x32 Scope
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Today we are going
to look at the new
Remington Vantage. At first glance the
Vantage looks like any other simple break
barrel rifle. In fact it looks very much
Crsoman Quest but with a much nicer looking
stock. Fortunately, the similarities
Crsoman Quest and the
Remington Vantage end there.
The stock of this
rifle is a beautifully rich hardwood that is far
removed from the “yellow” wood stocks seen on
many Chinese imports. It is very simple
and fully ambidextrous with a slight raise to
the cheek piece that works for righties and
southpaws alike. The rifle is not very
heavy, but also not too light, it is just right.
The majority of the gun is all metal and wood.
The few exceptions are the trigger guard and the
front and rear sights. The bluing is even
and looks very good for a rifle in this price
category. The barrel of the
Vantage is very ridged and unlike many break
barrel rifles, actually worked really well with
Dragon Claw Bi-pod.
Remington Vantage comes with an industry
standard set of open sights. The front and
rear sights are basically plastic with fiber
optic inserts. The front sight sports a
bright green rod, while the rear sight uses two
red rods for contrast. If open sights are
your thing, then you will love how these sights
look. The rear sight is fully adjustable
with easy micro-click adjustments.
Remington stands out over other rifles in this
price range, specifically with how they choose
to hold the barrel in place. I’ve seen
several different ways to “lock” the barrel back
in place after cocking and loading. The
three basics that I’ve seen are the (1) ball
detent, (2) opposing wedges with one spring
loaded to apply pressure (please forgive me for
not knowing the technical term), and (3) one
spring loaded wedge and a metal bar that the
barrel rest on. The lesser expensive
rifles use the last method. Some good examples
are the new
Gamo SOCOM Tactical as well as the
Crosman Titan GP. The problem with
this method is that they create a wear point at
a critical part of the rifle. Eventually,
something is going to wear out and there goes
your accuracy. If the break barrel
mechanism does not apply active pressure to hold
the barrel in place, you will have movement and
your shots will wander.
Remington Vantage uses two opposing metal
wedges with the one in the barrel spring loaded
to “hold” the barrel tight against the receiver.
Your better made, more expensive rifles, the
Beeman R9 for example, use this method.
While others like the
RWS 34 and
RWS 350, use the ball detent method. (Also a
good method as there is pressure actively
holding the barrel closed.) This is
something to remember the next time you’re out
shopping for your next break barrel rifle.
No rifle is complete
today without some sort of optics, at least that
what most airgun companies seem to believe.
In the case of the
Vantage, Remington included a simple
4x32 CenterPoint scope by Crosman.
Unfortunately, the scope fell apart during the
break in period. I’d rather they NOT put
ANY scope on the gun and lower the price.
Seeing as both the scope and the rings had
issues, I replaced them with a one piece Crosman
scope mount and a working
4x32 CenterPoint scope. I wanted to stay as
true as I could to the “out of the box”
Remington Vantage 1200. This scope
worked pretty well and I was able to shoot some
respectable groups at 20 yards.
The scope was not
our only sour note. The trigger, oh the
trigger... This is Remington’s “improved”
trigger. Well, the trigger still needs
more improvement. Because of the trigger,
you’ll need a lot of practice to reliably shoot
tight groups with this gun. The barrel and
the power plant can do it, but the trigger pull
is so long and rough, that holding a good sight
picture through the 2nd stage takes a lot of
work. It should not be this hard.
The good thing is that you can replace this
trigger fairly easily with a GRT III drop in
trigger. If you want a better trigger,
spend a few bucks and order one. You
won’t be disappointed.
Remington Vantage 1200 did reasonably well.
Remington says it should shoot 1000 FPS with
lead pellets and 1200 with lead free pellets.
Well, our tests put it a little under those
numbers, but we were fairly close. The
RWS Hobby pellets at 7.0 GRN, averaged 937
FPS generating 13.65 FTLBS. The standard
Crosman Premier Lights, at 7.9 GRN, came in
at 873 FPS generating 13.37 FTLBS. The
most accurate pellet in the Remington Vantage
JSB Diabolo Exact Heavies which weigh 10.2
GRN, travelled an average of 741 FPS, and
generated a modest 12.44 FTLBS.
The best groups
averaged just under .5” CTC at 20 yards.
With only a 4x scope, I was very happy with
All in all, the
Remington Vantage, regardless of the scope &
trigger issues, may be one of the best values on
the market today. At only about
$137 from PyramydAir.com, you get an
accurate, attractive, classic break barrel
rifle. I really enjoyed shooting this with the
Dragon Claw Bi-pod attached, which will run
you about $22 more, as it really helped while
shooting from the bench. The rifle’s mechanics
are sound and the parts that bugged me are
easily upgradeable. As a starter rifle or a
back yard small pest eliminator, definitely
Remington Vantage 1200.
Editor / Owner
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